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OK, so I'm creating this forum page for a discussion AG and I had early on about fairuse rationale and licensing. It makes our wiki look better run, more authentic and official. Anyway, so for those of you who want to see what it looks like go here. Note that when you're uploading images, it'll go straight into the summary box, so all you need to do is fill out the image's name, its source (Katekyo Hitman Reborn! manga by Akira Amano and whatever the anime company's name is), its purpose (article illustration), resolution, and replaceability (Only by high quality images of the same licensing status, etc.). Note that if this policy does take effect, all images uploaded without fairuse rationale and licensing will be deleted unconditionally . But the template's automatic through use of MediaWiki, so no need to worry about troublesome-ness. Additionally, you also must including the licensing; when you see the drop down list for licensing when you upload through Special:Upload, you select anime, manga, dvd, blahblahblah. What do you think? Implement? No implement? —   ChaosVoid  00:20,11/13/2011  

I'm a little confused. :\ so, we upload images the same way except we won't have to fill in all that category stuff..? or what are we not doing by implementing this? I also don't get the fill in resolution and will it mean that we can't upload random pictures...? Basically, what's the real point in implementing this? It sounds like just something more we have to do when uploading files honestly. Fiamma di Armonia - Sky ♥ Chrome9669 01:10, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
This thing makes stuff harder, yes, we have to do more; I'm not a big fan of it myself. However, it's for copyright purposes, and it is kind of necessary, I guess. It keeps things more organized with fairuse, licensing and everything, and it helps us avoid copyright problems should they ever arise. —   ChaosVoid  01:39,11/13/2011  
Oh...it's for copyright issues...but it's not like we are claiming to own anything. If you know the fair use law, then the Wikia fits under it. Since we are a non-profit "group" and people use it for personal use, then we are not breaking the laws thus the implement is not needed. Fiamma di Armonia - Sky ♥ Chrome9669 01:45, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
Have a point there. But then, wikis such as Narutopedia have it, and they're part of wikia too- they don't claim to own it. We'll see majority; I honestly don't really want to do it, since it's a waste of time in my opinion, but let's see what the other admins think first. —   ChaosVoid  02:01,11/13/2011  
Actually, we ARE a profit group, its just that we, the users dont get anything. You see the adds around Wikia? All the revenue from that, goes to the Wikia. So we dont fall under non profit organisations.
This is actually necessary, as this gives the people who created the image, due credit, or else we are walking on copyright grounds. Larger Wikia's such as Narutopedia have implemented this to avoid problems. Its not that much of a hassle really. Just keep the basic coding somewhere u can easily access, and when uploading an image, paste that into the "Summary" section, and fill it out, and then, under the "Licensing" drop down, Select "This will be used in a way, that qualifies for Fair Use under US law".
It'll take maybe a minute more to do that what you would usually do, but might help us in the long run ..AlienGamer (UserpageTalk) 06:49, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
An example of it being used is Image:Yuni's Last Smile 2.PNG..AlienGamer (UserpageTalk) 06:51, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
So with this in mind, (thanks AG for pointing it out) it would be better to reconsider. I don't like the troublesome part of it, but it's necessary, as I said. —   ChaosVoid  07:38,11/13/2011  
IF we want to get technical then, the WIKIA would be responsible for copyright stuff. The company wouldn't attack us in particular just the staff of the Wikia. And i HIGHLY doubt the company will be like "Oh...copyright!" one day and go all ape on us. The world isn't in that bad of shape and have you heard of other Wikias being copyrighted? If we were, they would go to the main staff and I'm sure they have something to protect us. It's like the Wikipedia that gives out copyrighted information on KHR or any other place you find information from, like livejournal, tumblr, etc...since people do post copyrighted things, like pics from anime. My point is why are we worrying about copy-rights anyway? We've gone this far and I doubt the Japanese company would go all attack on a little website. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use." I think we fall more under the fair use since WE aren't getting any money (they would go after Wikia staff for that), we are "news reporting," personal use for all of us, and it's somewhat educational. It's not that I hate this being implicated but it's something that's going to be irrelevant to us and cause us more work, especially newbies and multiple uploading (it would be harder to do that and when you have 20+ pics you really don't want to upload one at a time). Fiamma di Armonia - Sky ♥ Chrome9669 13:59, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
You make a fair point. I wanted to implement this ages ago (check the date when the fairuse template was created) but always knew there'll be objections to it. We'll make this optional for now. Whoever doesn't want to use it, fair enough, whoever does, again, up to them. ..AlienGamer (UserpageTalk) 06:27, November 14, 2011 (UTC)We need a support template thing.... I support

It does sounds harder...but it sounds promising for the wiki... I have to agree with AlienGamer, we'll make this optional for now. Frost190 13:40, November 14, 2011 (UTC)
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